To truly engage with the world, you have to use a variety of stories.

We're fundamentally storytellers, that's what human beings are.

Now there's the reduction of story that physicists are well equipped to talk about with particles

and laws of physics.

On top of that you've got the chemist story, the complex molecules, you've got the biology

story that begins to talk about cells in life.

You've got the psychological story, the neurophysiological story that brings a mind and consciousness.

And within that you then have all of the activities that conscious beings undertake, which includes

religion and includes telling other kinds of stories and includes creative expression.

You need them all.

And to sort of say that the scientific account is the only account by which you're ever

going to gain true qualities of the world as a very, in my view, limited description

of what truth is.

There is objective truth in the world that we can measure, that we can describe the

equations of so forth.

But there's also internal truth, spiritual truth that you get to by self-examination.

It's real in the sense that you are understanding how you respond to the world.

And that is something which is deeply personal but utterly real.

And whether it's through psychedelics, whether it's through ayahuasca, whether it's through

a spiritual journey, whether it's through religion, regardless, all of this adds color to

the story of what it means to be a human being, what it means to be.

This is infants on thrones, baby steps, the philosophies of men, mingled with humor.

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