You know, all this time I had been thinking about my life in terms of a career so that I could support my life.

And that year actually flipped it.

And I said, what do I want my life to look like?

And I'll figure out the planning to start a family. So does this episode even apply to me know, I'm never going to have kids or I'm never planning to

start a family. So does this episode even apply to me? And I would say yes, it does. You know,

even if you don't plan on having kids, um, there may be a time where your responsibility

gets in the way of your plans to be an adventurer or plans to do big long-term trips,

whether that's a job or taking care of someone, maybe an aging parent or a partner,

or even animals. You get a pet, for instance. I personally, I feel like our dogs were more of an adjustment

from like, you know, no dogs to dogs,

were more an adjustment to my adventure plans

than no kids to kids were because the dogs,

it was like, oh, total freedom, you can go wherever you want,

then dogs, it's all the sudden,

oh, you gotta think about feeding them, letting them out,

you can't be gone all that long, and you can't just throw that responsibility on anyone. It was actually a really

great primer to having kids. I'm only two years into being a parent, so I only have pretty

limited experience. But all that to say is there are plenty of other things in life that can get in the way of adventure plans

or as we're going to talk about with Heidi not get in the way of but become an addition to your

adventure plans so you know personally we've been parents for two years have two kids and I was

you know pretty apprehensive at first about what this was going to do

to my adventure plans. Now, I'll be honest, it hasn't really changed anything. You know, there are

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