The reason I created this book is because it didn't feel like there were a lot of books out there that were designed for the person who just learns that the PCT exists or the Colorado Trail exists or the AT exists.

So this is meant to be a dream to execution kind of book.

All of those little tiny questions that you don't even realize that you need to ask or think about, Those are all in there to kind of walk someone through step by step.

How do you go from just thinking about long distance hiking to actually going on and doing it? Hey folks, hope you're doing well. Sorry, I'm actually recording this from my phone because I forgot the cord to my microphone while I'm traveling, of course. But no worries, We'll be back on track on Monday. It's all an

adventure, right? Before we get started with this episode with Liz Snorkel Thomas, Liz Thomas has

been on the show many times, but she is a voice in backpacking and through hiking and is a great,

great listen. This is from a few years ago with Kurt, so a great episode.

And yeah, we're going to be talking about her new book.

It's not new now, but it's a book that's definitely out.

Great book, Long Trails, Mastering the Art of the Throughhike.

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