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Trail Runner Nation

EP 736: Unlocking Endurance from the Neck Up

Trail Runner Nation

Trail Runner Nation

Fitness, Health & Fitness, Sports, Running

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, cognitive neuroscientist and endurance athlete Dr. Scott Frey reveals how brain training can unlock new levels of performance for trail and ultrarunners. He explains that while most athletes focus on the physical, it's often the brain that sets the limits—through perceived effort, cognitive fatigue, and pain signals. Dr. Frey introduces his Brain Endurance System Training (BEST), a method that combines cognitive and physical training to build mental strength and resilience. We talk about managing cognitive load, how the brain predicts fatigue, and why a mental taper can be just as important as a physical one. Listeners will learn how to train smarter, race longer, and enjoy the sport deeper by understanding the true power of the brain. 

Find out more about BEST and Dr. Frey at Cerebral Performance

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Some of the stuff I do with my athletes is not rocket science.

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It is inspired by brain science, but it's how can we reduce that cognitive load going

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into big events.

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And the brain is probably the most complicated system in the universe that we know of. But I do think we know enough at this point to start applying some of the things beyond in the lab.

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I'm the lab. Welcome to the Trailhead of TrailRunnerNation. We go on virtual trail runs every week with everyone that wants to

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come along because the trail is long and even though it's a single track, we can handle

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