This is Annie Grace and you're listening to this naked mind podcast where without judgment,

pain or rules, we explore the role of alcohol in our lives and culture.

Hi and welcome to this naked mind podcast. So today I have one of my favorite people, which is super exciting for me. I am here with Rory from one year and a half things for me here.

Yeah.

Yeah, we we've wanted to do this for a long time. So it's super cool that the day is finally here. This is awesome. I think we've been talking about like doing podcasts together for two years or something like that. Something crazy.

I'm looking at me and I'm looking at me and then canceling you last a minute because I'm just such a nightmare. So I'm sorry. Oh, no, it's great. It's great. I'm glad we're here. We're live. This is awesome. So Rory, where I want to start with you is your story. Why don't you just back right up and to, you know, the good old days and tell me for the battle days, however you want to.

Good old days. Let's not go too deep into that. I might say, I said, I was alcohol because I had a fairly, really wild a wild time. So a bit of background. So I'm originally from the west coast of Scotland, a small island called the Isle of Mal and like many places all over the world, you know, you were learned very early on that everybody celebrates, commiserates and congratulates with alcohol.

And I guess the first time I got drunk, I was 12 years old and I got so smashed a bit. I convinced this girl from school to basically babysit me. I found out that whiskey or seen that whiskey got mixed with with a dark color whenever, whenever, you know, parents, whatever we're drinking. So I went rummaging around the parents.

Alcohol cabinet and I found whiskey and then port and I thought, finally, I'll mix these two together. So whiskey and port together into a coke bottle and cycled down to the village and got this poor girl to assist me and I drank about three quarters of the bottle, which I think probably would have killed some people.

And so, I mean, it was, it was all ends. It was all over. My parents were out there anniversary dinner and came back to just trails of stuff everywhere all over the stairs, everything.

So, but that I was not to be deterred.

Oh my gosh. That's the craziest first story I've never heard that before. That's enough.

So not to be deterred from that one. So yeah, but I would just say I've had a very normal relationship with alcohol pretty much all the way through my life. I was a very much a social person.

And, you know, I think I care very deeply or far too deeply about what other people think about me. And so, you know, in social situations and things like that, I would always be, I'd always be drinking and, you know, being the sort of party starter.

The last one in the last one out. The first one in the last one out rather.

But I, you know, I had a very entrepreneurial life. I set up my first business when I was 15 years old. The time I was 25, I'd set up five companies and all of which should failed.

And I eventually found myself down in London to be an oil broker. And I found two worlds really collided.

And I found myself in a social life and business really came together because as a broker, that's one thing you need to be good at doing is taking people out and entertaining them.

And I remember, you know, early on my boss saying to me, look, we're all getting old on the desk here. We need somebody young to take people out.

Go and take them out. And I literally had a license to go clubbing in London's best clubs.

Twice a week.

And I think that's the only way I could do this job to be, you know, and to be rewarded for doing that.

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