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I'm here today with my friend David Butler, author of two of my favorite books,

Plain and Precious Things, the Temple Religion of the Book of Mormon's Visionary Men,

and The Good men and the

goodness and the mysteries on the path of the Book of Mormon's

visionary men. David is also the author of numerous fiction books and is the

2018 Association of Mormon Letters Award winner for the best novel.

In this bonus episode, we're going to talk about the sermon on the mount as a parallel to

the endowment experience and take a deeper dive into second E. 9.

For those of you who love to geek out and get into the depths, this episode is for you.

If not, tune in next week after conference for a regular talking scripture on come follow me.

Welcome to talking scripture I'm Mike and I'm really excited to be here with my friend Dave Butler.

I met him online after reading a couple of his books and then I just

started peppering him with questions and next thing I knew we were eating at a

rib place wasn't it? Yes it was and so he's been gracious enough to to meet with us today.

And for you people that love to geek out, this is your day, right?

Dave, tell us about yourself, like where did you get your interest in scripture and

languages and then where did that kick you off to?

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