do about this next interview, I invited our guest on to talk about, mainly because they're a storyteller, but to talk about plogging.

And actually, he convinced me rounds.

And I've now committed, you'll hear it at the end of the interview, I'm going to pick up a piece of trash every run I do this year.

If you want to know why a twat like me is committed to that and thinks it's a great idea,

you're going to love this episode.

Strapping.

They're bad.

They're boys.

And occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the bad boy running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave down.

When I was at the Run Expo in Amsterdam, catching up with a great friend by Dirk from the mudmen.

And he said, do you still interview people in a podcast about stories, not just about elite performance and science?

And like, yeah, of course, we love that.

And you've got to meet this guy called Paul. So spoke to him after about three lines out of his mouth.

I was like, yeah, this is going to be a good story, whatever the story is. I'm sure he's going to gloss it up, even if we're talking about paint drying.

So welcome to a podcast to talk to us about how he is the

world's first professional plogger, the wonderful Paul Way, Way of Life. Way.

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