Hey, dude badders, you're going to love this episode. It really gets to the heart of the change of running in the last 10 years.

Raz is an expert on Cruise. And we discuss about how they've grown, how they've changed, how the motivation, the money, the involvement in brands, all these things have changed running and kind of where it's going, but also some of the challenges with it.

And we start the first half of this episode talking about his journey through being a music

journalist into being a running journalist.

And then we get into more of a conversation where I thought it was absolutely fascinating.

I think you would do as well.

Take it away, guys.

They're bad. They're bad, their boys and occasionally they talk about running. Yes, it's the bad boy

running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford and David Heller.

Come back. Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave Tom.

Come back.

Our next guest was suggested to me by the wonderful Tom Dark.

And having already caught up a little bit, turns out he was a guest.

He was a DJ at his wedding.

Incredible.

But I've been reading his substack for probably about 18 months now.

And I thought it would be interested to get him on to kind of hear about his journey,

his view on mainly, probably his view on run crews and his

exposure because he's been based in the US but from London and seems to have had more

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