Hi, this is Josh Marshall, and this is the Josh Marshall podcast. We have special

guests today. You will you will know their names and their work we have Michael

Isakoff and Dan Clydman I just you know I have I have what was it. I actually I was speaking to our producer John a little while ago and he said you know I is

What was it I you said I think it's Clydeman and I'm like well I don't mean to bum you

out but it's actually Clayman I followed his work for many years I'm glad

you weren't you weren't going to throw your producer under the bus.

No, I throw myself under the bus.

Yeah, anyway.

And Izzakoff is Chief Investigative Correspondive for Yahoo News and a long time

investigative journalist. Dan is editor-in-chief of Yahoo News and himself a veteran and national security intelligence

journalist and we are there's a whole bunch of issues we're gonna talk about.

We are also by the way the co-host yes well that's one of the thing yes

skull you guys have your own pocket everybody's everybody is is getting into

the getting into the podcast that you know I'll I'll everybody should listen to it and and

just recently there was that big Bruhaha with Rashida Talib and that whole thing and that was on your podcast.

That's right.

And that's you know it's one thing I want, I want to get to in a minute, sort of the,

what happens in a case like that where, you know, it wasn't, you know, you didn't bring her on to say like hey what do you think about the

Holocaust right it was it was organic yeah happened organically and then

suddenly it's this big thing you know that takes on a life of its own. We should get into this later

because I know that you have other things but it's an interesting question and

it and it and it I think it is illuminating about the state of the media today in this kind of hyper-partisan culture we live in so we can get

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