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encourage women to start talking about money. Discover more at Fidelity.com slash its time. Money. Hey it's Jean Chatsky. Welcome to her money. So I was prepping for this interview and I often think about things when I'm out for a run.

So I was out for a run last weekend in Long Beach Island where we sometimes are on the weekends at least during the summer and I'm in my head I'm in the zone I sort of have my cadence down I can I traffic lights. That's sort of how I, they're sort of few and far between those of you who've been to Long Beach Island will know, but I count traffic lights and that's sort of how I know where I am and all of a sudden this biker

comes toward me and I see he's wearing a shirt from the University of Pennsylvania.

It says pen on it. And all of a sudden he looks

at me and he turns and he yells, Jeannie. And for those of you who don't know me from college or from the time before college, that is what

all of my friends from college call me.

And I'm telling you this because my friend Karen Austin is our guest today. We've been teeing up this show

for such a long time. We're going to talk about positive psychology and mindfulness and

meditation and I couldn't be more excited because those are all things that are on my

bucket list but if you hear Karen call me Jeannie over the course of the

interview it's not that she's being rude It's just that to anybody who knows me from there and then that is who I am.

So Karen, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Jeannie. You're happy to be here.

It is, it is really, really nice to have you here.

So for those of you who are not familiar with Karen and her work, she is a writer, you've probably seen her pieces in the New York

Times, she is also a certified positive psychology life coach and she spends a large amount of her time teaching

mindfulness to people who really need it including later today she will be

training a group of a hundred day camp counselors.

I cannot think of an audience that needs mindfulness more except perhaps all of us.

And she works with individuals and groups to help them find balance and

resilience and positivity during transitions and

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