So I am super freaking excited we are finally having a live in person three day boot camp again in my old stop and ground beautiful Denver. It's going to be this July 29 through the 31st now if you've never been to one of my boot camps.

I can humbly say you will likely be blown away by the experience. Now, yeah, it's drinking through a fire hose about every aspect of this business, but it's also a tremendous amount of fun.

And an incredible opportunity to meet other motivated like minded people. Now we go deep on building your team, finding deals, evaluating those deals, raising the money you need for your deals, financing them syndication joint ventures, managing your properties and on and on every aspect of this business.

Now, there'll also be billions of dollars represented by the panelists that I'll have on stage each day to answer all your questions and.

And also because you know 80 to 90% of your success and anything is your mindset right I spent a good bit of time on that as well. So you actually take action with what I teach you.

Now, right now the tickets are the absolute lowest will ever be so don't wait text rod to 72345 you can just go to rod in Denver.com and get your ticket right now. I promise you you'll be glad you came again.

That's text rod. My name is 72345 or go to rod and Denver.com. All right, let's get to this is the lifetime cash flow through real estate investing podcast.

This is where you'll learn strategies to help you achieve lifetime financial freedom through real estate investment.

Your host rod cleaf has owned over 2000 homes and apartments and he brings experts in all aspects of real estate investment and management onto the show.

Now, here's your host rod cleaf.

Welcome to another edition of how to build lifetime cash flow through real estate investing. I'm rod cleaf and I am absolutely thrilled that you're here and I am super excited about today's interview with my good friend Matt Puccini.

Now, Matt has been on the show before he was on the show November of 2019. I can't believe how long it's been but he is a frickin rock star. So he's invested in over 8,000 apartments across the country.

He's won two Tony awards for producing Broadway shows co-producing them with his wife. He just raised written a best selling book which we're going to talk about which is called backstage guide to real estate.

So super excited to have you back brother.

Oh, it's a pleasure. Thanks, Rod.

No, absolutely. So listen, I know it's been so long since we talked that I actually want you to tell my listeners again, you know, who you are where you came from just just do a much better job than I did of introducing you and, you know, tell us tell us your story in your own words.

Sure. Well, I grew up in Orlando, Florida and as I was growing up, I got involved in theater, acting and I actually my first paying gig was working at Walt Disney World.

When I was 11 years old, I worked at Walt Disney World as a doing some acting and singing and dancing in front of the castle right at the Magic Kingdom.

Ever since then, I've always been involved in theater and then I moved to New York City after I graduated from from high school to pursue a career in theater.

Did that professionally for five years, I performed in 15 different professional productions across the United States and started tinkering around with computers in between acting gigs instead of working as a waiter as most people do and I started off as a waiter.

I started being able to do computer projects. This was back in the in the mid 90s, so the early days of the internet and HTML and all that kind of thing. And so I was doing that and had an opportunity to start my own boutique agency.

So I had my own boutique agency in New York City during the big dot com hey days doing digital marketing projects for people.

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