All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Crypto 101 podcast.

We've been putting the industry on our backs and our shoulders recently.

I think Brennan was Karen too heavy a load recently with all the

work he's been putting in here. Brennan, we're happy to have you back off some double

shoulder surgery. How are you feeling after a kind of a crazy week for yourself? Glad to have you

here. I'm making it through it. I'm making it through it. That was my first experience with something like that. And I have to say, it has encouraged me to never do something silly in the gym again. And that's what I did. It's kind of like when you're crypto trading and you get a little bit too hot handed because you're winning too many trades. And then you get over levered because you get so confident. And then you get burned by it for the first time. And you're like, don't think I'm going to do that again.

I'm going to be a little bit more careful. Well, the same situation over here.

And it really reminds us to focus on the fundamentals. Focus on the things that are long lasting,

things that aren't, you know, whatever, get rich quick or get strong quick,

but the slow and steady innovations, the slow and steady wins. And we've got a great guest

on the show, not to talk about her weightlifting regimen, but really the backbone of this

industry is policy and regulation and regulatory clarity, stuff that we haven't had in this industry

since the beginning of the industry, whatever it was, you know, 15, 16 years ago.

So I'm so excited for this episode with the chief policy officer of Hedera.

Nilmani, Rubin, welcome to the Crypto 101 podcast, and how are you doing today?

I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me.

You are very, very welcome. And we've got a lot to do. So we just want to jump in before we get

into policy. And really, again, we had a guest the other week said for every line of policy

that's written or removed in, you know, in the industry, it adds or

subtracts like a billion dollars of market cap. So the thing that this hedge fund manager pays

attention to most is policy. And so, you know, you're here. You're going to be talking to us,

but you've got an extensive background. You didn't just kind of come up overnight in the

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