What's up everybody? This is the Betray, the addicted, and the expert. My name is Brannon and I am the expert.

And I'm Ashland and I was the Bet. And I'm Kobe, the recovering addict.

What you're going to get is three unique perspectives on recovery and tools for hope and healing.

Okay guys, welcome to the latest episode.

Good to have you here and we're going to start first with a fan shout out.

So this one is called LifeSaver, that's what the subject is, it's by

Relatable and Loving. It says you guys have been so inspiring to my husband and me, we

will frequently listen to these podcasts and

pause them often to discuss what we hear, how we feel, and how it relates to our own

recovery. Thank you for keeping it real, keeping it honest, and giving us hope.

It's awesome.

Appreciate the love and appreciate the fact

that you guys are sharing the, that I guess you're on experience with talking about,

I think that's one of the funniest things

about this is getting a little nuggets and saying hey let's talk about this part of it.

It's that intellectual intimacy.

Yeah, I like one of my favorites.

I hear that all the time with my clients of hey we pop in your podcast we listen to it and

It doesn't really matter what episode it gets us going in terms of talking and processing things and if it's doing that then it's doing

what we intended it to do. Right. Right. Doesn't replace therapy but it is

definitely a tool in tool. Yeah.

Right.

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