All right folks, welcome to the Gritty Podcast. Today I am joined by my good friend Mark Livese.

Mark, how are you? Good, glad to be back. Yeah, so Mark is the Lama guy,

as well as the treeline academy, eScouting, health eScouting, bear eScouting, you'll do your eScouting.

No, no, no, no, let's not, yes, not get carried away here yet. We're working on those, but I'm going to

have partners on those. I'm, I can teach, I can teach people that tack behind them, but I'm going

to bring in some real heavy hitters on Mildere and bear bear. Now bears, I am gaining more and more

and more knowledge in over my years of bear hunting, but Mildere, I still consider myself pretty

green in the Mildere world. We just finished our bear hunts together with the Lamas. By the way,

we should just have some podcasts on Lamas themselves because it's been a while. We did do one

years ago. Yeah, that very first pocket, well not the very first, but maybe it was the very first,

it was the very first one. I think it was the first one where you were like a solid guest,

not just a voice over. Yeah, exactly, not just well, but the two of you,

but so we did this before for those who don't know that are just kind of tuning in for the first

time. Mark has an online eScouting course for elk, finding elk, and we covered your modules.

It's a lot of modules. This is a real professional course, and you can purchase the course, take the

classes, but what we did was we touched on each module, so walk through them and we got through

half the modules roughly before hunting season kicked in and we got onto that. Now we're revisiting

it and there's the remaining modules that we've not talked about. When I say module, it's your

course is split up into different sections. For those that didn't listen to the earlier podcasts

with Mark, you probably want to go check those out, especially the ones that were really popular

was like your elk finding features. The adventures. Yeah, the, you know, the, so like you said,

what we're trying to do here is look at instead of just getting on the pockets and just start spewing

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