Welcome to the Gritty Podcast. I am your host Brian Call and I am joined by my brother the Gritty Bromant. How are you Brent?

I'm well. Thank you. Good.

Today's podcast is with Kevin Tim. It's like a second part from the first conversation we had on this podcast.

Basically, we asked our local community, those that are supporters on the community.

I jumped on there and just said, hey guys, I'm meeting with Kevin, got any questions. They threw up a bunch of questions and Brent and I went through him with Kevin.

He answered all the questions on the show. That's what this podcast is. It's just random questions about TPs and I think the pack and ordering websites and stuff.

Yeah, so it's good stuff. At the end, we talk about Western mountaineering sleeping bags and Kevin brings one of his in. He has the badger. He throws it up on the table.

Kevin loves that bag. We talk about that. There's things I love about the bag. Lampers.

Lampers is kind of like he still contends that the best sleeping bag on earth is the Stone Glacier Chill Coot.

If World's Greatest Sleeping Bag, I think is what he calls it. The world's greatest sleeping bag. WGS. World's Greatest Sleeping Bag.

I don't know if that claim could be made as I have trouble spreading my legs.

One of my complaints, I like the Stone. I really do. It's a great bag. The zipper bothers me. I don't like how it kind of underneath me and I don't like how it gets caught constantly.

It's a tiny little zipper. I really like the Western mountaineering. It was so much better in the way the baffles closed. It's a better zipper design.

I like the fat YKKs. Yeah. It doesn't get caught because it's got this taped edge that holds it in place so you can't get the zipper all stuck.

I hate that when I'm trying to pee in the middle of the night and the dark and I'm like, crap, and then I got to turn on my lamp and try to get it unjammed.

It's not that big a deal. The zipper is not a deal breaker. It is nice. The foot box is the issue.

It starts to taper tightly from right at the knee down. If you think about it, I'm bow leg at his hell.

At no point in my life or my thighs not touching. I need some space. Unfortunately, the bag is tight. It tapers too soon. It looks like this. If you're watching, it comes down. It's super spacious.

It turns into a tube. A little tiny tube. That is so bizarre. If I got the tall version, then maybe I could leave the bottom of the bag without my foot of the bag there. It would hit me below the knee.

If it tapered like that below the knee, it wouldn't be a big deal because I can still spread my legs and relax and sprawl out a little bit. As it stands with the chilcoot now, there's all this upper body room.

My legs must be tight together because it narrows so greatly toward the foot box. It's like, why not? Let that thing taper outward at the same rate or level all the way to the bottom.

That's a complaint. Everybody has built a little different. That said, we show on this video that they put water on the bag. Kevin does.

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