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co-dot UK for terms. Oh, Well, goodness grace is me. We are here. Judith and I are with you.

A good, hello, good day, good evening, good afternoon, good whatever.

It's Jenny and Judith here, older and wider. Very happy to be able to bring you another podcast.

Thanks to Daisy's incredible patience.

I'm not saying that getting this one together initially

has been easy.

Judith, what happened to you this morning? Hello, everybody. Well, it hasn't been easy. Judith, what happened to you this morning?

Hello everybody.

Well, it hasn't been as bad as it has been in the past, has it.

But we've had quite a bad 15 minutes or so with me rushing up and down the garden trying

to find the attachment to my headphones which actually I didn't need...

Which you refer to as the fiddly little white thing?

Oh yeah, it's annoying, isn't it?

Because you know, you have to get that thing don't you that connects the old

connection to everything for your headphones onto the new iPhone and that's

too much for us they changed it didn't know the bastards

...