Welcome to the Dear Lovejoy podcast special.

It's part two of the Helen Chamberlain conversation.

She came around my kitchen and we banged on and on and on.

So we decided to split into two parts.

So I say that.

That sounded rude, but we banged on and it was interesting, I thought.

So lots more to come up in part two.

Should we get on with it?

I don't see why not, Tim.

Here's Helen.

This is just a guide to modern life.

Modern life is hard to get just right.

It can frustrate you and annoy it.

And if it does, right into dear love joy

I was when I first joined soccer at the thing I've learned so I said this to you before I've

learned so much of you because you're just a great presenter a good sort of presenter but you also

liked your football and your music and everything as well so you you you're just a great presenter, a good sort of presenter. But you also liked your

football and your music and everything as well. So you were perfect at the show. What I was remember

was the football community absolutely adored you. And they, it was quite a sexist for everyone's

point of view. It was quite a sexist industry back then, and all the managers

used to call you love every time we did a phono, and it just used to make us laugh, because

you'd be doing a serious phono with, I'm not going to mention who, but all the managers, basically,

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