Ep. 582 - Extreme Aquatic Plants
In Defense of Plants Podcast
In Defense of Plants
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 14 June 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
When you start studying a group of plants, you never know what you are going to find. Sometimes it's important insights into pollination and seed dispersal. Other times it's how the uplift of mountain chains shapes wetlands and rivers. These are the kinds of discoveries that drive Dr. Ana Bedoya to study the riverweeds of the family Podostemaceae. These extreme aquatic plants are fascinating in the own right while also having a lot to teach us about a variety of scientific disciplines. This episode was produced in part by Chris, Gerald, Elise, Maggie, Mamie, A.J., Dallas, Channele, KC, Joe, Diane, Kim, Tanya, Neil, Matthew, April, Dana, Lilith, Sanza, Eva, Yellowroot, Wisewren, Nadia, Heidi, Blake, Josh, Laure, R.J., Carly, Lucia, Dana, Sarah, Lauren, Strych Mind, Linda, Sylvan, Austin, Sarah, Ethan, Elle, Steve, Cassie, Chuck, Aaron, Gillian, Abi, Rich, Shad, Maddie, Owen, Linda, Alana, Sigma, Max, Richard, Maia, Rens, David, Robert, Thomas, Valerie, Joan, Mohsin Kazmi Photography, Cathy, Simon, Nick, Paul, Charis, EJ, Laura, Sung, NOK, Stephen, Heidi, Kristin, Luke, Sea, Shannon, Thomas, Will, Jamie, Waverly, Brent, Tanner, Rick, Kazys, Dorothy, Katherine, Emily, Theo, Nichole, Paul, Karen, Randi, Caelan, Tom, Don, Susan, Corbin, Keena, Robin, Peter, Whitney, Kenned, Margaret, Daniel, Karen, David, Earl, Jocelyn, Gary, Krysta, Elizabeth, Southern California Carnivorous Plant Enthusiasts, Pattypollinators, Peter, Judson, Ella, Alex, Dan, Pamela, Peter, Andrea, Nathan, Karyn, Michelle, Jillian, Chellie, Linda, Laura, Miz Holly, Christie, Carlos, Paleo Fern, Levi, Sylvia, Lanny, Ben, Lily, Craig, Sarah, Lor, Monika, Brandon, Jeremy, Suzanne, Kristina, Christine, Silas, Michael, Aristia, Felicidad, Lauren, Danielle, Allie, Jeffrey, Amanda, Tommy, Marcel, C Leigh, Karma, Shelby, Christopher, Alvin, Arek, Chellie, Dani, Paul, Dani, Tara, Elly, Colleen, Natalie, Nathan, Ario, Laura, Cari, Margaret, Mary, Connor, Nathan, Jan, Jerome, Brian, Azomonas, Ellie, University Greens, Joseph, Melody, Patricia, Matthew, Garrett, John, Ashley, Cathrine, Melvin, OrangeJulian, Porter, Jules, Griff, Joan, Megan, Marabeth, Les, Ali, Southside Plants, Keiko, Robert, Bryce, Wilma, Amanda, Helen, Mikey, Michelle, German, Joerg, Cathy, Tate, Steve, Kae, Carole, Mr. Keith Santner, Lynn, Aaron, Sara, Kenned, Brett, Jocelyn, Ethan, Sheryl, Runaway Goldfish, Ryan, Chris, Alana, Rachel, Joanna, Lori, Paul, Griff, Matthew, Bobby, Vaibhav, Steven, Joseph, Brandon, Liam, Hall, Jared, Brandon, Christina, Carly, Kazys, Stephen, Katherine, Manny, doeg, Daniel, Tim, Philip, Tim, Lisa, Brodie, Bendix, Irene, holly, Sara, and Margie.
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| 0:36.7 | at patreon.com slash indefensive plants and help keep this show up and running in the process. I hope to see you over there. But in the meantime, on with the show. Hello everyone and welcome to the Indefensive Plants podcast, the official podcast of Indefensiveplants.com. What's up? This is your host, Matt. Welcome to the show. How is everyone doing this week? I hope you brought your bathing suit because we're getting wet again. We are talking about |
| 0:57.7 | extreme aquatic plants today and how their evolution can teach us more about biogeography, |
| 1:03.5 | mountain uplift, and so much more. Joining us to talk about this is Dr. Anna Badoia from the New York |
| 1:08.9 | Botanical Gardens, and she is studying a plant that will be recently familiar to you all if you've been listening to the podcast over the last couple weeks. The potostamasee, the river weeds. These amazing aquatic plants have so much to teach us, and yet they're so poorly understood, but that's why people like Dr. Bedia are doing such important work to understand them. |
| 1:29.3 | So I don't want to keep you from it any longer. |
| 1:31.2 | Let's just jump right into it without further ado. |
| 1:33.7 | Here's my conversation with Dr. Anna Badoia. |
| 1:34.6 | I hope you enjoy. Thank you. All right, Dr. Anna Bedoya, it is so great to have you on the podcast. |
| 1:52.5 | For those that aren't familiar with your work, let's start off with an introduction. |
| 1:55.2 | Tell everyone a little bit about who you are and what it is you do. |
| 1:58.8 | Hi, thanks for having me in your podcast. |
| 2:02.1 | It's super. I'm excited to be here. So I'm Ana Hidogia. I'm a curator, assistant curator at the near botanical garden. I |
| 2:07.3 | studied about a year and a half ago, so I'm fairly new. And I always describe myself as both |
| 2:14.5 | a botanist and an evolutionary biologist. |
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