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Everyday Wellness: Midlife Hormones, Menopause, and Science for Women 35+

Ep. 567 “Timing Is Everything” – The Best Way to Test Hormones, Cortisol & Thyroid for Real Answers with Dr. Carrie Jones | Menopause & Testing

Everyday Wellness: Midlife Hormones, Menopause, and Science for Women 35+

Cynthia Thurlow

Science, Life Sciences, Health & Fitness, Nutrition, Alternative Health

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Today, I’m thrilled to reconnect with my friend and colleague, Dr. Carrie Jones. She is a naturopathic physician and hormone expert with over 20 years of clinical experience in women's health and endocrinology. In our discussion, we unpack the limitations of traditional hormone testing and explore the benefits of saliva, urine, and blood testing for gaining a more accurate picture of hormone activity. We explore the critical importance of lab timing and how the DUTCH test evaluates estrogen, metabolism, and cortisol rhythms. We also examine how liver detoxification affects the active form of thyroid hormone, T3, across phases one through three, highlight signs and symptoms that indicate an imbalanced gut microbiome, and wrap things up with some rapid-fire questions about the things you’ve probably wanted to ask. Stay tuned for another invaluable, humorous, and fun conversation with Dr. Carrie Jones. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL LEARN: How blood tests give only a snapshot in time without clarifying hormone pulses or tissue utilization How testing hormones at the wrong time can temporarily skew test results The optimal timing for testing in women with regular cycles and those in perimenopause What the DUTCH test measures How regular vs. irregular cycles affect which hormones should be tested Why the way that estrogen is metabolized matters more than the estrogen itself  How phases one, two, and three of liver detoxification influence estrogen, cortisol, and thyroid hormone activity Why free T3 is critical for eliminating cortisol What gut symptoms reveal about hormone elimination Connect with Cynthia Thurlow   Follow on X, Instagram & LinkedIn Check out Cynthia’s website Submit your questions to support@cynthiathurlow.com Join other like-minded women in a supportive, nurturing community: The Midlife Pause/Cynthia Thurlow  Cynthia’s Menopause Gut Book is on presale now! Cynthia’s Intermittent Fasting Transformation Book The Midlife Pause Supplement Line Connect with Dr. Carrie Jones On Instagram Estrogen Detox Made Easy Hello Hormones with Dr. Carrie Jones - Podcast

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0:00.0

Welcome to Everyday Wellness Podcast.

0:03.7

I'm your host, nurse practitioner, Cynthia Thurlow.

0:07.4

This podcast is designed to educate, empower, and inspire you to achieve your health and wellness goals.

0:13.9

My goal and intent is to provide you with the best content and conversations from leaders in the health and wellness industry each week and impact

0:22.1

over a million lives.

0:29.2

Today, I had the honor of reconnecting with friend and colleague, Dr. Carrie Jones, who is a

0:34.9

naturopathic physician and hormone expert with over 20 years of clinical experience

0:39.9

in women's health and endocrinology. Today we spoke about limitations to traditional testing

0:44.8

and how both saliva, urine, and blood can be beneficial for getting a appropriate sense of what's

0:51.0

going on with hormones, how timing of labs is critically important, the influence

0:55.7

of the Dutch test and specific parameters in which the Dutch looks at estrogen metabolism,

1:02.8

cortisol rhythms, and more, menopause through the Dutch lens, the impact of liver detoxification

1:09.0

and its impact on T3, which is our active form of thyroid hormone.

1:14.7

Phase 1 through phase 3 and why they're so important.

1:18.4

Signs and symptoms that our gut microbiome is not optimal.

1:22.7

And last but not least, we did rapid fire questions that I picked up that I thought would be the kinds of

1:28.1

questions you all wanted to ask Dr. Jones, another truly invaluable humorous and fun

1:34.2

conversation with Carrie.

1:38.7

Dr. Carrie Jones, so good to have you back on the podcast.

1:41.7

Is this like our fourth or fifth conversation?

1:43.8

I don't know, but I always love talking to you.

1:46.2

So I'm happy to be here.

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