Ep 549 – Dr. Weird Science and the Woonderful Woorld of Woo

Infants on Thrones

Glenn Ostlund

Personal Journals, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.7 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2018

⏱️ 131 minutes

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Summary

Once upon a time, a Mormon scientist worked at the Pentagon. They nicknamed him Dr. Weird Science. He was later stationed in Japan for the US Air Force, where he investigated and invested in the most cutting edge scientific research in Asia. He listened to a recent episode of Infants on Thrones. He has a thing or two to say about the line between science and woo. He is Dave Sonntag, and today he and Chelsea Shields join Glenn to talk a little more about the Mormon (and post-Mormon) cultural attraction towards woo. Link Bomb for nearly every reference we dropped: Anne Jacobsen, Phenomena: https://www.amazon.com/Phenomena-Governments-Investigations-Extrasensory-Psychokinesis/dp/0316349364 Men Who Stare at Goats (IMDB): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1234548/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 CIA Reading Room Stargate: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/stargate Google Quantum Biology Workshop: https://aoardlifesci.wordpress.com Johnjoe McFadden, Quantum Evolution: https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Evolution-Weirdest-Paperback-2002-05-17 Not mentioned, more recent: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Edge-Quantum-McFadden-2015-07-28/dp/B01LP8VESM/ Herb Froehlich: https://publishing.aip.org/publishing/journal-highlights/quantum-coherent-state-observed-biological-protein-first-time, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Fr%C3%B6hlich Stuart Hameroff, Anirban, and microtubules. http://discovermagazine.com/bonus/quantum Penrose, Emperor’s New Mind: https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-New-Mind-Concerning-Computers/dp/0198784929 Penrose Institute: https://penroseinstitute.com/ Stuart Hameroff: Science of Consciousness Conference: http://consciousness.arizona.edu Lieberman, Social: https://www.amazon.com/Matthew-D-Lieberman-Social-Hardcover/dp/B07DFDL998 Bob Rees, Heartmath Institute, coherent group changes: https://www.heartmath.org/research/featured-research/ Irwin Schroedinger, What Is Life: http://www.whatislife.ie/downloads/What-is-Life.pdf Rosalind Franklin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalind_Franklin Grid Cells: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_cell

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0:00.0	When you're trying to discover frontier sciences, you have to drive out to the edge of what's known and the problem is you run the risk of ending up at the crazy next door neighbor of fringe science.
0:13.8	And so there is a lot of risk in, you know,
0:18.6	operating out at the fringes of the edge of what is known.
0:22.7	But at some point, you have to say, okay,
0:25.8	we have these tools that allow us to look out
0:29.2	and see what's happening.
0:30.6	And what was Galileo's famous last words right?
0:35.0	It's poor, right? It's percimue.
0:40.0	The shit still moves. You can say what you want, but I've got the tools here to look at this.
0:49.0	E-Puer Simueve.
0:51.0	The shit still moves.
0:52.0	It's still moving. So I think that's kind of where we are now with a lot of the woo science.
0:58.8	How do you guys define woo? Like where is the line when you're talking about the fringes of science,
1:06.0	where does science end and who start, where do you draw the line on what's who and then what do you do with
1:12.0	who when you come across it?
1:14.0	My way of distinguishing
1:17.2	who from science is improve it.
1:20.0	Where's your fact?
1:21.0	Where's it where?
1:22.0	Have you done any trial and error?
1:24.4	Have you done any scientific method at all?
1:27.0	So for me, the book The Secret is Wu.
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