But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, hello, do badders.

I've just been recording with Corin, our next guest.

And here's a bit of overview of what to expect.

So we do talk about the situation with UTMB and her not being able to talk, well, no longer working as a commentator for UTNB race itself. But before that, we

actually go into biathlon and what it takes to be a top biathlon athlete. We then talk about

how trail running's changed and the impact of her DNFs in her future races. And then we get

to the meat of it, which is really, oh, it's hard.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

to the growing pains of the sport and the, the, not just how the professional

trail runners association has been engaging with different groups within

the sport, but also the conflict that anyone who's working in the sport has such a passion

for the individuals, the athletes, and the races themselves. And so with change is always going to be negatives and positives.

And so how do we as individuals really communicate and engage with something we love without

potentially being too vocal and everything collapsing in on us in some regards.

So tuck in guys, well, strap in guys.

It's a really good interview.

I hope you enjoy it.

And take it away, Nick.

They're bad, their boys.

And occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the bad boy running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

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