Ep. 520 We Got Healthcare Wrong – The Biggest Flaws in Modern Medicine & How To Fix Them with Dr. Aaron Hartman

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Cynthia Thurlow

Alternative Health, Nutrition, Science, Life Sciences, Health & Fitness

4.8 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Today, I am thrilled to reconnect with Dr. Aaron Hartman, a triple-board-certified physician who recently wrote the book "Uncurable." In today’s expansive conversation, we delve deeply into the structural flaws of traditional allopathic medicine. Dr. Hartman shares how his own clinical approach has evolved and recounts Anna’s story, explaining how her experience became a turning point in his professional growth. We highlight the importance of lifelong learning, patient advocacy, and the benefits of removing restrictions to allow providers to deliver patient-centered care. We examine the legacy of the Flexner Report, the rigidity it introduced to modern medicine, and the broad potential of GLP-1s beyond weight loss. We discuss the hidden factors that shape medical errors, the effects of insurance reimbursement, the challenges of existing in the current medical system, and how fear of liability influences clinical decisions. We also explore the triangle of health and the effects of unresolved trauma. This episode is packed with valuable insights, so you will likely want to revisit it more than once. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL LEARN: How traditional allopathic medicine is structurally rigid and limits patient-centered care Dr. Hartman shares how patient advocacy and curiosity-driven learning fueled his clinical evolution. How the Flexner Report created a hierarchy that discourages innovation and integrity The therapeutic potential of GLP-1s beyond weight loss Why being open-minded as a clinician does not mean being reckless How insurance reimbursement models reward overdiagnosis and procedural volume instead of outcomes What the fear of litigation leads to, regarding defensive medicine and unnecessary testing How clinical decisions, overtesting, and overdiagnosis can inadvertently contribute to serious medical errors and harm patients What the triangle of health is, and how it underpins overall wellbeing Why unresolved trauma can cause physical illnesses Connect with Cynthia Thurlow Follow on X, Instagram & LinkedIn Check out Cynthia’s website Submit your questions to [email protected] Connect with Dr. Aaron Hartman On his website Purchase a copy of Uncurable

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0:00.0	Welcome to Everyday Wellness Podcast.
0:03.7	I'm your host, nurse practitioner, Cynthia Thurlow.
0:07.4	This podcast is designed to educate, empower, and inspire you to achieve your health and wellness goals.
0:13.9	My goal and intent is to provide you with the best content and conversations from leaders in the health and wellness industry each week and impact
0:22.1	over a million lives.
0:28.1	Dr. Hartman, great to have you back. Welcome.
0:30.7	Great you're back. I'm super excited to have a conversation today.
0:33.9	Absolutely. What do you think is this single biggest structural flaw that you see in traditional
0:39.1	alopathic medicine? And how has your practice model kind of evolved over the last 20 plus years
0:47.5	in response to your experiences, both personally and professionally? That is a big question. The biggest
0:53.4	structural flaw, part of our strength is our weakness. And it's just we have this amazing educational system in the United States, you four years of undergraduate, four years of medical school, three to seven years of residency. So you get this massive knowledge base when you get out of school. But the way it's set up, it's almost like you've arrived at the pinnacle. And it's almost as if, at least in medicine, many times that once you get there, the curiosity, the hunger for new knowledge, it's not perpetuated. So what happens is you get your board certification, you get your thing. And it's like, I finally reached the pinnacle on my board certified X, Y, Z. And it's like,'s like the reality is no you've just got the ticket to
1:29.1	show up congratulations insurance pays for your time now and we're getting these like these silos and it's
1:35.0	partly because of that whole educational system that i was literally forced out of um against my own will
1:40.0	not by my own volition and so that's part of the reason why people jump from specialist to specialist doctor or doctor.
1:46.2	Because once you get in your narrow pathways, we lose the ability to have that vision around us.
1:51.7	In medical school, we did biochemistry.
1:54.2	And I was told in medical school, you'll never use this again.
1:57.1	You're just doing biochemistry so you can pass your boards.
2:00.2	Like half of functional medicine is biochemistry, genetics, cell biology.
2:04.5	And so it's interesting how something that was a thoroughway in medical school is a standard in the functional medicine world.
2:10.1	So I think that's an educational.
2:11.3	Like our strength is our weakness.
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