Hi, this is Josh Marshall, and this is the Josh Marshall podcast.

You know, coming out of Election Day, there was a lot, everybody was thinking like okay the the Mueller investigators have kind of gone quiet in this couple months before the election

Everybody's expecting a lot of you know a lot of stuff suddenly going to happen after

election day well they weren't kidding because we're like we're like five or six

weeks after election day and a ton of stuff has happened and not only a ton of stuff from

uh... robert mullers uh... special counsel's office

there's also been a lot of stuff, maybe even an escalating amount of charges

and investigations from the Southern District of New York.

Now yesterday we had this very dramatic hearing for Michael Flynn as a sentencing hearing and

we're used to those sentencing hearings being they're not not necessarily, often they're,

often they're dramatic in their own way,

but they're almost more like rituals than hearings.

The defendant, I guess no longer a defendant at that point since they've pled guilty in these

cases, but comes in, they have to say for the record that they're guilty and so on and so forth the judge

usually admonishes them and chastises them for their wrongdoing and then you

get a sentence. Obviously it went very differently yesterday some Some unexpected things,

the most unexpected things is Michael Flynn was not sentenced.

We still have that coming.

So TPM's Tierney Snead was in the courtroom yesterday, and she's joining us today to discuss the details of what happened, and also the atmospherics since you were there.

Tierney, how you doing?

Hi, thanks for having me.

Absolutely.

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