Yes,

but a, but a, but a, but a,

Pamela, welcome to Fat Mascara. Hello.

Yes, give me that voice over mellow honey tone.

I like it.

I'm so excited to have you as my guest co-host while Jessica Matlin is traveling for I think work and

pleasure but who cares you're here you're gonna play Jess for the day but

also play yourself awesome also my sister's name is Jennifer, so it's like, oh look, it's Pamela and Jennifer.

It's kind of like, yeah.

We're just hanging out.

Is this what you did when you were little?

The two of you, did you have a fake radio show?

We did not, but it was always Pamela and Jennifer. We had a lot of fake plays, so this is close,

producing things together, talking together. Okay, I'll take that. I always wanted a sister.

All right, so just for some background for people,

Pamela and I go a little ways back.

Actually, I don't even know how many years.

We've been colleagues over the years

running in the same beauty journalist circles,

which is a career you still dabble into this day, which we'll talk about,

but you've also expanded your career a little bit, doing some voice over work, some astrological work,

which I'm so curious about.

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