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🗓️ 21 August 2025
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In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron shares a powerful analogy between preparing for a trek through Nepal and leading a growing business.
Just like training for a demanding physical challenge, business leaders must begin with a broad vision, identifying where they want to go before diving into the finer details. Early momentum, even without a fully formed plan, sets the stage for long-term success and enables thoughtful preparation when it matters most.
You'll learn how forward-looking strategy—distinct from rigid long-term plans—can shape critical business decisions. By thinking through “what if” scenarios and visualizing future states, companies can anticipate needs like infrastructure, staffing, or supply chain adjustments. This mindset doesn’t require perfect predictions but encourages strategic conversations that prime the team for rapid execution when real opportunities or challenges arise.
Cameron emphasizes the value of proactive visualization over exhaustive five-year plans. Instead of locking in static goals, this episode advocates for flexible, evolving strategy discussions that spark innovation, expose blind spots, and keep teams agile. The takeaway? Look ahead boldly, plan backwards, and be ready to act when the future arrives faster than expected.
Want a clearer path to your $100M vision? This episode reveals how to lead with agility, think ahead, and make bold moves now—tune in and take the first step. If you've enjoyed this episode of the Second in Command podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today!
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0:00.0 | broad stroke, what kind of physical shape do I need to be in? |
0:03.4 | Broad strokes, I'll figure out where I am currently, kind of like my SWAT analysis. And then I'll figure out a plan because I don't leave to go there until October 30th. I'm not going to worry about it. But considering I committed to it yesterday, I got my house to the gym this morning. I'm just going to get started. So I know that that momentum is going to drive towards something. |
0:21.3 | But I know for sure I will have a very, very strong plan in place for October. |
0:30.3 | Welcome to the Second in Command podcast, produced by the C.O. Alliance and brought to you by its founder, Cameron Herald. |
0:38.8 | In the second in command podcast, we talk to top COOs who share the insights, strategies, and tactics |
0:45.3 | that made them the chief behind the chief. And now, here's your host, Cameron Herald. |
0:54.5 | Ever wonder how a broad vision can lead to precise operational decisions? |
1:00.6 | In this episode, we're exploring the power of strategic visualization. |
1:04.6 | Drawing from personal experiences like planning a hiking trip to Nepal and a detailed |
1:09.0 | case study from 1-800 Got Junk will reveal how looking |
1:12.7 | years ahead, even without granular plans, can highlight critical needs like office space or supply |
1:18.9 | chain demands. |
1:20.2 | Learn how what-if scenarios can proactively prepare your business for rapid growth and unexpected |
1:25.5 | opportunities. |
1:26.8 | Don't miss these insights. |
1:32.0 | Cameron, I'd love to add something here. Yeah. Cameron's always taught me, like, where do you want |
1:37.5 | to go, set your expectation and your goals, and then work backwards. So for me in that instance, |
1:43.8 | like part of one of our vivid vision goals is to hit |
1:46.3 | a hundred million. I don't believe we'll be able to do that without doing some type of acquisition |
1:50.4 | of another company related to our industry. It's not going to be in my next 12 month plan, |
1:55.7 | but I know that by 2028, I need to have that done. So at what point do I need to start working on it? |
2:03.5 | Is it going to take me one year? So then I start in 2027. Is it going to take me two years so that I |
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