It's the Simple Show. You've got episode five.

Hey there, I'm Tish Oxen Rider, and I'm a writer, traveler, entrepreneur, and family gal.

I'm a big fan of Simple Living, but I don't think it's just about getting rid of your stuff.

It's about living holistically with your life's purpose.

On The Simple Show, I talk with other people about what

that looks like for them. It's fun. This is a vault episode, where I'm taking an older

episode from my previous show, The Art of Simple Podcast, and dusting it off for you. I'm doing a

collection of these episodes, mostly for old times' sake,

and because some of these conversations just shouldn't go unheard. In this show, I'm talking with

Shauna Nequist, a fellow author and all-around fun gal with lots of wisdom. Her book,

Bread and Wine, had just come out not too long before we chatted here. So this episode is about hospitality, food, and being real.

She was a great guest, and I hope to have her on again.

This episode first aired on January 16th, 2014, and you can find her at shana-nequist.com.

I think, I could be wrong, I think there's something about, like, the nature of writing is you're tolerating a lot of mess in your brain.

And so I can't tolerate at other places.

Like I feel like I've got as much kind of bonkers, crazy energy going on inside my head.

And so I need the rest of my life to feel a little bit orderly.

That is a great theory.

That helps explain a lot because I'll try and explain it to Kyle because I think you're

exactly right because it only tends to happen when I'm writing and when I need to really

concentrate because like if I'm editing photos for a blog post or if I'm doing something

else, I'll just like, whatever.

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