Ep. 460 - Lumati COO, President & Co-Founder, Ashley John Heather

Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief

Second in Command with Cameron Herold

Entrepreneurship, Business, Management, Careers

4.5 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode of The Second in Command podcast, co-host Sivana Brewer is joined by Ashley John Heather, Co-Founder, President, and COO of Lumati, a wellness firm that blends evidence-based science with natural solutions.

During the conversation, Ashley shares a personal and professional journey marked by rapid growth, continuous adaptation, and a deep commitment to making an impact. As Lumati's work gains traction on a national level, he reflects on the challenges of scaling a mission-driven organization while balancing personal development.

Beyond business, Sivana and Ashley explore the personal side of success—what it means to carve out space for reflection, mentorship, and a well-rounded life. Ashley acknowledges the relentless pace of building something new and the effort required to reach the next level.

This episode offers some thoughts on the importance of awareness, whether in business, health, or personal growth, and how small decisions can have a lasting impact.

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In This Episode You'll Learn:

The $4 trillion healthcare industry and why a growing number of people are seeking alternatives to traditional Western medicine.
Ashley's transition into health after his brother's brain injury and his frustration with the healthcare system's focus on chronic conditions.
The importance of conflict and disagreements as opportunities for better decision-making and growth.
The difficulty of balancing the needs of existing team members with the need to bring in new talent.
And much more...

Resources:

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0:43.7	I think in general, we humans lean into comfort. We're told, we're educated that comfort is there.
0:49.5	It's a shining light. Generally, that's not taking you into the growth, right? Growth generally comes from
0:55.5	discomfort and doing the hard things, even though you don't necessarily want to, but every time
1:01.4	you do it, again, going back to the man's mind won't stretch, right, the stretching, that's that
1:05.5	discomfort. So that's where growth comes from. So if there are people who are more introverted and,
1:10.6	you know, I think COVID unfortunately has led
1:13.1	introverted to people to be even more introverted and it's created an ability for them to do
1:18.2	so and live behind the computer and the screen, working from a home office, you know, maybe
1:22.3	they're not have to be in the office as much interfacing with people in the same way.
1:25.7	And I think that's a challenge.
1:37.6	Welcome to the Second in Command podcast, produced by the COO Alliance and brought to you by its founder, Cameron Harold. In the Second in Command podcast, we talked to top COs who share
1:43.8	the insights, strategies,
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