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The Jim Fortin Podcast

Ep 460: Interview with Gary Zukav

The Jim Fortin Podcast

Jim Fortin

Self-improvement, Education

4.9 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Start Your Transformation Now In this profound and far-reaching conversation, Jim Fortin sits down with Gary Zukav, author of The Seat of the Soul, to explore what he calls an unprecedented shift in human consciousness. Gary explains that humanity is moving beyond a five-sensory, fear-based way of living into a multisensory awareness rooted in love, responsibility, and authentic power. This transformation, he says, is not a future possibility—it is happening now, within each individual. The discussion dives deeply into what authentic power truly means: the alignment of personality with soul. Gary contrasts external power—control, manipulation, and fear—with authentic power, which comes from emotional awareness and conscious choice. He offers practical guidance on how to recognize frightened versus loving parts of the personality and how everyday emotional experiences are actually gateways to spiritual growth and personal evolution. If you’ve ever wondered how inner change can affect the world, how to move beyond fear, or how to live with greater meaning and integrity during uncertain times, this episode offers both clarity and direction. What You’ll Discover in This Episode:  (02:58) The New Human Consciousness Why humanity is undergoing a rapid, historic shift from five-sensory awareness to multisensory perception.  (04:20) External Power vs. Authentic Power How control and manipulation differ from soul-aligned power—and why the old model no longer works.  (13:57) Love and Fear as Choice Points How every moment presents a decision between fear-based reactions and love-based responses.  (18:59) Emotional Awareness as a Tool How physical sensations in the body reveal frightened or loving parts of your personality.  (41:59) Temptation and Conscious Choice Why temptation is a spiritual gift and how it serves as a rehearsal for growth—or karma.  (51:30) Creating Change from the Inside Out Why transforming yourself is the only way meaningful change happens in the world.  Listen, apply, and enjoy! Transformational Takeaway  True transformation doesn’t come from fixing the world outside of you—it begins by turning inward. As Gary Zukav reminds us, the frightened parts of your personality are not obstacles, but doorways to deeper awareness, compassion, and authentic power. When you learn to recognize fear, choose love, and act from alignment with your soul, you step into a life guided not by reaction, but by conscious creation.  Let’s Connect:  Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | LinkedIn  LIKED THE EPISODE?  If you're the kind of person who likes to help others, then share this with your friends and family. If you have found value, they will too. Please leave a review on Apple Podcasts so we can reach more people.  Listening on Spotify? Please leave a comment below. We would love to hear from you!  With gratitude, Jim

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Transform Your Life from the Inside Out podcast. This is an episode titled

0:05.6

Spiritual Evolution in 2026. And again, I am visiting with my good friend Gary Zucoff,

0:12.6

and he and I are talking about the changes that are happening in the world. You look around,

0:17.5

look at the political upheaval, look at the cultural chaos, look at the economic chaos, look at all the changes happening in the world.

0:26.0

Well, he and I are talking about the spiritual implications of that and the spirituality of that.

0:31.4

You may remember that I've shared before and I've talked about the Kachina prophecies, the ancient Hopi prophecies.

0:37.9

No question about it.

0:39.0

Look around.

0:39.6

Changes are happening.

0:41.2

And what's vital is that we grow and we evolve ourselves spiritually to make ourselves

0:47.0

immune to all the chaos happening in the world.

0:49.3

So hopefully you enjoy this episode and I will be bringing you many more episodes like this

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where I will be talking more specifically and diving deeper.

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Enjoy.

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Hi, I'm Jim Fortin and you're about to start transforming your life from the inside out with

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this podcast.

1:07.2

I'm widely considered the leader in subconscious transformation, and I've coached super achievers

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all around the world for over 25 years. Here, you're going to find no raw, raw motivation

1:17.3

and no hype because this podcast is a combination of brain science, transformational psychology,

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and ancient wisdom all rolled into one to take your life to levels you've never thought possible.

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If you're wanting a lot more in life to feel better to heal to have peace of mind, to feel powerful and alive and to bring more abundance and prosperity into your life,

1:40.2

then this podcast is for you because you're going to start learning how to master your mind

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