You know, I was doing it before they were calling it embedding. I mean, in 1999, I flew into Somalia with the First Army Battalion into Somalia in 1994.

I air assaulted into the Port of Prance seaport from the USS Eisenhower

and you know was with the first group of vehicles over the pontoon bridge into Bosnia with the

First Armoured Division.

The balance between sort of security and, you know, the right of the American people to know,

to know what their government is doing is, is a hard one to strike when you're writing

about national security matters and intelligence, you know,

special operations.

Hi and welcome back to the Modern War Institute podcast. I'm John Amble, editorial director at

MWI, and for this episode, I had the opportunity

to speak to Sean Naylor. Sean is a journalist and author of Not a Good Day to Die, an account of the 2002

Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan. More recently, he wrote Relentless Strike, a history of the

secretive Joint Special Operations Command.

He has also spent nearly 30 years reporting from combat zones.

In our conversation, he talks about everything from the role of journalists reporting from war zones

to the unique challenges of writing about security, intelligence, and secretive military organizations,

including addressing the sometimes tricky relationships

with units and people he writes about.

It's a great discussion with a really remarkable guest.

Before we get to it, though, just a couple quick notes.

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