They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

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But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around, but that doesn't mean that you have to leave

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Welcome to Bad Boy Running.

And our next guest actually kind of pop the head up on, I think it was runners world or similar,

just at a time when we've been talking about

with safer power and a few other runners about the difficulties in trying to ensure that

the sport is as accessible to women as possible, given the obstacles into getting into the sport,

the culture, but also, you know, as still for many

relationships of primary carekeeper, that creates a huge addition of problems in trying

to train and get, get that into a race. So welcome to the podcast to tell us about how they've

approached, approached differently as a race organizer,

Caleb Efter and Kelsey Bannesinski.

Yay!

Did I get your second names right?

I hadn't practiced it before.

And I just said, oh, God.

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