Welcome to the Gritty Podcast, friends. I'm your host, Brian Call.

Today's episode is with my good friend, Anthony Spencer.

It's the second half of our discussion when I was down there in Weezer hanging out with him.

On this podcast, we talk about Fish and Wildlife,

how they determine populations,

in general, how the models they use for determining how many elk are in a certain unit,

and then therefore how many tags they can issue for that unit.

I'd like it to be a lot more scientific.

Yeah, but the agencies have limited resources,

and so some are better than others,

and some have, but it takes money.

So on this podcast, we talk about that, and we get into,

because my discussion is, I really get tired of talking about

who's more morally pure than the next in terms of the technology.

They choose to hunt with. I think it's a dead end road myself,

because everybody uses some form of technology to some extent.

We have units that allow rifles.

We have hunts that are extremely primitive with recurve only.

All of those are legal means, and ethical means for taking an animal.

And really, what I would like to determine when it comes to keeping,

I'd like to keep hunter opportunity at a higher level,

or keep it at its existing level.

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