You know, I can do that only because I was willing to go through a year of hell instead of having the surgery.

And it was worth every bit.

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All right, so welcome to the adventure sports podcast.

We have an interesting show for you today.

You're pretty used to Kurt's voice, but very rarely is he on the side of the interviewee.

He has spent years, in fact, asking people about their sport and about their experiences,

but it really has never happened, especially an entire show, for someone to ask him about his adventures and his interests and what it's like to live a life surrounded around adventure sports.

So, Kurt, welcome to your show.

Thanks, Mason. I think it's going to be fun. I wanted to make sure that we did this so the listeners would get a chance to hear you more too. So I wanted to mention, Mason, that our plan is for you

to do more and more hosting as a show moves forward to have a

bigger and bigger role. And so this is a chance for us to both be on the horn at the same time.

It ought to be fun. Perfect. Yeah, I'm excited, man. And yeah, I'm talking to the expert here, though.

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