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Marriage Therapy Radio

Ep 416 Multiple Love, One Commitment to Repair w/ Hazel Grace & Nico

Marriage Therapy Radio

MTR

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Therapy, Health & Fitness, Marriage, Relationships, Mental Health, Education

4.6 • 690 Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Zach sits down with Hazel Grace and Nico for a wide-ranging conversation about polyamory, relational integrity, and what it actually takes to repair after conflict.

Hazel Grace, a relationship coach and educator with a PhD in human sexuality, and Nico, a lumberjack and self-described relationship nerd, share how they’ve built a deeply intentional partnership within a polyamorous relationship structure. They unpack common misconceptions about polyamory—especially the idea that it’s simply about sexual freedom—and explain how their approach is rooted in responsibility, communication, and care for the entire relational ecosystem.

Zach asks about Hazel Grace’s framework called The Art of Repair. Drawing from their own childhood experiences, decades of personal healing, and years of coaching couples, They outline a clear process for navigating relational ruptures and restoring trust.

Through a real-life example involving a broken ankle and an emotional reaction that escalated quickly, Hazel Grace and Nico demonstrate how repair actually works in practice: pausing to regulate, developing empathy, seeking permission to talk, acknowledging what happened, naming the impact, and then rebuilding integrity.

The conversation is a powerful reminder that conflict is inevitable in relationships—but repair is a skill anyone can learn.


Key Takeaways

  • Polyamory isn’t about unlimited freedom; it requires responsibility for the impact of your choices
  • Relationships don’t come with fixed rules—you can design agreements that fit the people involved
  • Many people mistake “no conflict” for healthy relationships, but avoiding conflict can limit emotional intimacy
  • Repair begins with regulation, not explanation
  • Empathy for both self and partner is essential before attempting repair
  • Asking permission to have a repair conversation creates safety and consent
  • Understanding each person’s experience matters more than determining who was “right”
  • Repair restores trust through acknowledgment, empathy, and concrete actions


Guest Info

Hazel Grace, PhD

Hazel Grace is a relationship and intimacy coach specializing in relational healing, sexuality, and communication. They teach workshops and courses on relationship repair and works with individuals and couples to develop deeper intimacy and emotional connection.

  • Website: https://drhazelgrace.com
  • Workshops: Northern California & Colorado
  • Courses: Online self-paced programs on The Art of Repair

Nico

Nico is a sawyer—running a mobile sawmill business where he mills lumber directly on clients’ properties. In the winter he works in snow removal in the mountains. He also collaborates with Hazel Grace in relationship workshops and educational programs.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, welcome.

0:03.3

And thank you for listening to this episode of Marist Therapy Radio. My name is Zach Brittle. And let's see. I'm here today with Dr. Hazel Grace Yates and their partner, Nico. And I'm looking forward to sharing that with you. But first, I'm going to cover a couple of things. Number one, I don't know how long you've been listening to the podcast, but if you've been around for more than a minute, you might remember Operation Blue Check. Operation Blue Check was my dream or fantasy of having one of those

0:27.7

blue checks on your Instagram account, which we did it. We have a blue check now, which is amazing.

0:33.9

We got to 5,000 somehow, and then we cleared the protocols or whatever it was and now we're

0:41.6

official. So thanks for that. Thanks for following on Instagram and for commenting and for sharing

0:48.0

and whatever it took. I feel a little, I feel kind of fancy. Although I told my daughter a story the other day about something quirky that happened to me.

1:00.1

I don't know if I've ever really shared this story on the internet, but I had a guy that I wanted to give one of my books to, and I signed it, I autographed it, and gave it to him and was really excited about him reading it

1:13.0

and having it change his whole life. Anyway, a few years later, I was online looking at my book.

1:18.2

This one was the relationship alphabet and I noticed that there was like a special copy or

1:22.2

like an autographed copy. I was like, this is weird. I wonder why there's an autograph copy

1:27.4

because I have all the

1:28.6

copies and I have, I've only autographed a few. So I bought it for myself. I bought that book for

1:33.2

myself and it came to my house and it was from the guy. It was the guy that I shared it with that

1:38.2

I was really excited to have him read my book and then, but it sounds like he immediately took it

1:43.3

to the used bookstore in his hometown,

1:44.9

and that's who I bought it from.

1:46.5

So, having gotten the blue check, my daughter then told me I lost all my aura points

1:52.3

and that the blue check doesn't count.

1:56.2

So I don't really know how Instagram work, but she's 23 and she knows things.

2:02.2

The other thing I wanted to talk to you about was pottery.

2:05.4

I recently, as you know, have been thinking about like, what am I going to do with all this extra time?

2:10.5

As we empty nest and we do the next thing, like how do I, well, how do I, you know, continue to evolve my brain? So I took a pottery class.

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