They're bad, their boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the bad boy running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back, baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

Come back.

Oh, so deep.

As well, good to Bad Boy Running.

We've just had a typical experience as Encaster, 15 minutes of our lives waiting.

To demonstrate to our next guest who's just started

a new podcast.

It's a learning curve right here, the lesson.

Our pain is your benefit, so you don't have to go to know.

And he's a tech specialist.

He's a tech specialist as well.

But if you, we met Kieran at the,

the on running launch of their on running athletics club in Zurich in, not in Germany,

in Switzerland, I'll have you know. And he, you probably know more from run testers,

which is the, the brilliant YouTube channel

where they test a lot of kit to be of running.

But recently he's also ran the whole Danube for some reason.

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