Ep 398 - The Enantiodromia of Vietnam (feat. Colin Quinn)
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis
4.7 • 11.5K Ratings
🗓️ 15 June 2022
⏱️ 90 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | All right. Yes. This is it. We're on another history podcast. This time we've got the Colin Quinn. Yes. |
| 0:06.9 | And today's topic is Vietnam. The name. What a time. Yeah. What a crazy time. I mean, in some ways, |
| 0:16.3 | I feel like it's the most important. It changed everything. Plus it was at that time. You know, |
| 0:22.2 | but it changed. I always feel like these things have like bigger, like what comes first? Vietnam makes |
| 0:28.4 | people. It was a revolution where everybody's like, we're fighting against the system or is |
| 0:33.2 | Vietnam the thing that triggers it off? And it's to what it have happened without Vietnam, |
| 0:38.8 | with the 60s of happen without Vietnam. Because Vietnam as, you know, I'm breaking about my extensive |
| 0:44.0 | knowledge started for America in the 40s. Yeah. And yeah. And it was because we were helping France, |
| 0:53.2 | because we owed France from the Revolution War. Yeah. The thing I've looked at it, dude, France |
| 0:59.0 | dragged us into this to the point that's like, oh, France was France owned Vietnam. It was a colony. |
| 1:06.0 | Japan took it when they went. They got a little wild. Yeah. And then the United States liberated it. |
| 1:12.6 | That was the thing. Ho Chi Minh, the guy who ended up being the leader of the Viet Cong, was like, |
| 1:17.2 | I love America. That's right. He was writing letters to Truman saying like, I love you. Thank you. |
| 1:25.6 | They were like Americans are the only free people on earth. He's an incredible people. The leader |
| 1:31.1 | of them loved America. Yeah. And then he started, this is the craziest part. So France goes back in |
| 1:37.1 | after the war. And it's like, we're taking it back. And America was like, can't you don't do that? |
| 1:42.4 | Yeah. And we were kind of siding with Ho Chi Minh and the Vietnamese. And then France was like, |
| 1:50.2 | this is the beginning of the Cold War. So France is like, hey, if you guys don't support us, |
| 1:54.0 | maybe we'll start listening to fucking Russia. And then America was like, I will, we'll |
| 1:58.4 | fucking help you out. Then, anyway, that is interesting. And by the way, speaking of Ho Chi Minh, |
| 2:03.4 | writing letters to Truman, all those letters were redacted and like, until like 1970 something. |
| 2:10.4 | And half of them Truman never got because the secret service was like, wow, he doesn't need to see |
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