EP: 398 Phobetron and The Age of Monsters with Dr. Judd Burton & Doug Van Dorn

Blurry Creatures

Nature, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

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🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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What if the writers of the New Testament were intentionally hijacking the greatest myths of the ancient world to tell the true story of Jesus? Doug Van Dorn and Dr. Judd Burton return to break down the art of biblical subversion, the strategy of entering an opponent's story and retelling it through the lens of the gospel. Luke, the comic book nerd of the apostolic age, filled his two-volume masterwork with deliberate allusions to Homer, Virgil, and Greek mythology, using the very names and narratives his Hellenistic audience would have recognized to show the supremacy of Christ over the gods of the nations. From the Aeneid parallels in Acts 9 to the Watcher numbers hidden in Acts 23, from Jesus stilling the storm as an overthrow of Yom and Baal to Paul being mistaken for Hermes in werewolf country, the guys reveal layer after layer of intentional mythological subversion woven into the fabric of Scripture. They also explore how John subverted Greek philosophical dualism, how Hegel and the French Revolution weaponized subversion against Christianity, and how Doug's chiastic cosmic mountain theory reframes the entire structure of Luke-Acts. It's a masterclass in why the Bible is way more fun when you learn what it actually means. Read Dr. Judd's new article here! https://strangertheology.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:33.6	It's really important that people wrap their minds around how significant, important subversion is and how common it is.
0:42.5	He defines subversion as the strategy of engaging yourself in an opponent's story.
0:47.9	And then you retell that story through a new paradigm.
0:51.7	And in the end, you take the opponent's story captive. And some people will say, oh, the Old Testament is just subverting the pagan stories.
1:01.0	And a lot of people don't like that because they think that what that necessitates is that, well, it can't be true then.
1:08.0	You don't need to be afraid thinking that the flood or creation is a subversion
1:12.3	of Babylonian stories, for example, if you wanted to think that way, and then somehow think
1:17.9	that it means it's not true. Those two things don't follow at all.
1:38.3	The Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it.
1:48.1	I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it bust the paradigm.
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1:56.3	And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural.
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