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They're not even trying to hide anymore. You know, Beyonce and what's her husband's name? Jay-Z.

Jay-Z. I mean, he wears a shirt that says do what that will that's

alistair crawley's that's saint and saint i mean they're not hiding this we should uh the hollydale

is a restaurant in hollywood where you could go eat human meat is real go look it up i'm you know

these things are real i mean you saw uh richie the barber right he's doing the guy and his gills are showing up on the side of his face. Like, you think he's just making up that's, I mean, seriously, I understand it's hard to believe. But that's one when people ask me, like, well, what's it like working with rich abuse survivors? And I go, well, the only thing I can say is I figured out that every movie you've ever seen is true.

The history of our Earth is so different from what we can imagine.

The Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it.

I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it bust the paradigm.

It all goes back to the fallen chair.

And the problem with the modern-day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural.

This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this

Mount Hermon event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal.

All right. We're here with Dr. Robin Perry Braun with their book Thrive. We're going to talk about all sorts of things today. You're a holistic practitioner. And we've brought on a lot of people who've been through ritual abuse over the years, people who've actually had their story to tell or people who help people get out of there. I like your energy so far. I like, I like your attitude and I like that you're

willing to jump into these, the darker parts of helping people get out of the darkness, I guess,

and the things that they've been through. And I think sometimes, like, last couple episodes, we've been talking about the afterlife.

And we have Bob Larson talking about exorcism.

And I think sometimes when people know there's a problem, they get initial help, but then they need more help to put themselves back together emotionally and kind of figure out what I've been almost fragmented.

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