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Ep. 386 Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer — The Stacks Book Club (Alexis Madrigal)

The Stacks

Traci Thomas

Literature, Society & Culture, Books, Arts

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

It's The Stacks Book Club Day, and we're talking about the plant world and nature with this month’s pick, Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall Kimmerer. The wonderful journalist and author Alexis Madrigal is back for this conversation on this modern nonfiction classic. We discuss the influence this book has had on writers and readers alike, as well as the essays that stuck with us most. We also dig into Kimmerer's relationship with city people and how she pushes the boundaries of what is possible.

There are no spoilers in this episode.

Be sure to listen to the end of today’s episode to find out what our September book club pick will be.


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0:00.0

Hi everybody, it's Tracy. I want to tell you about something new that I am offering this fall.

0:05.1

I will be teaching an online class all about understanding Shakespeare. The course is five weeks

0:10.8

long. It will begin on Wednesday, September 17th. It will go for the next five Wednesdays.

0:15.8

It is a class geared toward giving you the tools and concepts you need to understand the work of William Shakespeare.

0:22.3

I am so excited to teach this class. As you all know, I love Shakespeare's plays. And we are going to be

0:27.5

using two of my most beloved plays, 12th night and Richard III, to break down the crucial components

0:34.0

of Shakespeare's work, verse antithesis and argument. So if this sounds like something

0:38.8

you'd be interested in, head to the stackspodcast.com slash understanding dash Shakespeare.

0:46.1

The class is open now for all to enroll. There are limited spots. So grab your spots before

0:51.2

it's too late. Just this very weekend, I was kind of tending,

0:55.0

weeding and all these things.

0:56.1

And one of the things that I love is that plants will do this thing

1:00.5

where if they're in a crappy place,

1:03.3

they'll grow just like how they would normally grow,

1:05.3

but like miniature.

1:06.5

So like you get like a little California poppy.

1:09.5

It just grows like two inches and spreads out a tiny little flower, you know?

1:12.9

And I actually sometimes find those to be the most beautiful, you know, because you're like,

1:17.8

man, that little guy survived in this way to flower.

1:22.5

And I think for city people, that's like one of the best like plant teachings, you know,

1:26.0

is like you might not have everything you need to like plant teachings, you know, is like you might not have

1:27.9

everything you need to flower in the, you know, but like you have enough to be yourself and to like

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