Ep. 378 - What is justice?
The Breakdown with Shaun King
The North Star
4.8 • 12.6K Ratings
🗓️ 17 December 2020
⏱️ 13 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, this is Sean and I'm having a next surgery this week and I'm going to be out for most of the week. |
| 0:07.0 | So we're going to be playing some of our favorite episodes this week. |
| 0:12.0 | I just want you to know that I'm doing well, recovering well, but I just wanted to remove the pressure of having to do a live episode every day. |
| 0:20.0 | And so these are some of our most important episodes and just wanted to let you know I'll be back next week. |
| 0:27.0 | We have some special things that we're going to be doing for the rest of the month, but thank you for your prayers and support. |
| 0:34.0 | And you'll hear back from me soon, alright? |
| 0:37.0 | This is Sean King, you were listening to The Breakdown. |
| 0:53.0 | Every day, I think I say the word justice, I mean, 10 times a day. Maybe more than that. |
| 1:03.0 | I mean, we're trying to describe for people sometimes in shorthand what it is, exactly what it is that we're fighting for. |
| 1:12.0 | And what we often reduce it to us, we're saying we're fighting for justice. And I want to unpack and ask myself and you, what do we mean by that? |
| 1:26.0 | That we're fighting for justice. |
| 1:30.0 | What is justice for families whose loved ones are murdered and maimed by police? |
| 1:38.0 | What is justice for the family of a mod-opry? Yesterday I got to spend the afternoon with Wanda Cooper Jones, a mod's mother. |
| 1:49.0 | What is justice for that mother? |
| 1:52.0 | Whose son was chased and lynched in broad daylight, not in 1940 or 1920, but in 2020. What is justice for her? |
| 2:04.0 | And you know, I remember I was last year, I was with the family of both of them, Sean. And both of them's family actually came to our house. |
| 2:15.0 | Some of both of them's family actually lives here in Brooklyn in New York. And both of them's mother and sister came over to our house for dinner with my whole family. |
| 2:25.0 | It was a beautiful, beautiful evening. And the pain was palpable. I mean, just the loss of a son and a brother that a mother and a sister had poured nearly 30 years into just gone. |
| 2:49.0 | And no goodbyes, no transitions just gone. |
| 2:58.0 | And you know, I talk with them. I got a chance to speak at a memorial service for both of them. And I asked the question, you know, in the Bible, not to go religious on you. |
| 3:17.0 | But in the Bible, when justice is spoken of in the Old Testament, they talk about an eye for an eye. You still an eye, you lose an eye. |
| 3:31.0 | A hand for a hand, a life for a life. And yet, I know that that's not even quite what families are calling for. |
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