Whether it's a full-on face-to-face feud or a quiet rivalry that only flares up in occasional bright, brief bursts, you know the story is going to be juicy.

So on the award-winning podcast, Beef, with me, Bridget Todd, we dive deep into history's bitterest pairings, like legendary director Werner Herzog and its problematic muse actor Klaus Kinski, or the nation states

of Sweden and Denmark. And we try to unpack what makes these individual conflicts so

captivating. Why are they important? And how do so many of them end up changing the world?

Be sure to listen to Beef with Bridget Todd wherever you get your podcasts.

Looking for a podcast that takes tragedy and finds the silver lining, you've come to the

right place.

Welcome to Behind Beautiful Things, a mental health podcast where we discuss difficult stories,

but often find the heart, positivity, and joy hidden in the hardest moments of life.

On Behind Beautiful Things, we explore the challenging times in our guest's lives with humor and perspective,

separating the signal from the noise, reminding each of us that no one is alone.

Please come join the conversation. Behind Beautiful Things can be found wherever you get your podcasts.

Behind Beautiful Things is brought to you by the human condition.

I'm Marjorie Punnitt.

I'm Elizabeth Reese.

This is Best and Nest, the podcast that's all about creating strong, comfortable, beautifulness that prepare us to fly.

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I know.

Loving what it does to my skin.

But I love the ritual morning and night. I feel odd if I don't do it.

I was so tired last night after class. I got into bed and it was like, you know what? You didn't even

wash your face? You didn't do any of your skincare routine. Got back up out of bed because it makes

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