They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

Come back.

As we, we always try and not only talk about running, but give you an insight into

runners globally and the issues they're facing

but also to try and ideally get an understanding, a greater understanding of the world in general.

And obviously this last few months, the last few years really politically have been dominated by Russian Ukraine. So get an understanding

of what it's like to be a Ukrainian who, as a very high-level runner, things run sub-225 in the

past for the marathon, and to really find out what their viewpoint is on what's been happening and how it is to be living in the Ukraine currently.

So welcome to the podcast, Sirhi Popov.

Hey, Serfi, how are you doing?

Hi, well, for now I'm fine. I'm finally in my Kiev apartment. I haven't been here for a month since the start of the war and came back only a week ago.

So, well, it was very hard months, actually, and it is still hard.

But today I more like, today my mood is much better because today is the first quiet day in the city without explosions, without shootings. So I can just sit here on my

kitchen, take a cup of coffee and relax, actually. And because for the listener, we'll put this

one as soon as we can out after we've recorded. Sometimes it takes a while. But just for the listener at home, to give you an idea of when we are, today is the 1st of April and there is a hopefully, well, it may be a temporary but the ceasefire troops

withdrawing from Kiev.

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