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We've got a really interesting one for you today.

So I first met Lewis when I was part of a business accelerator at Nat West, and Lewis stood up,

I think he just joined the accelerator, and he did a little presentation about who he was and

what he did. And normally when you hear these presentations, you know, you hear a little bit of

backstory, but his backstory was incredible. It was the kind of backstory that you'd expect to hear

at some event where, you know, you're going for like inspiration or something like that. It was, it was,

it was incredible. And so since then, I've wanted to get him on, but he's a, he's a very busy man.

And actually since then, he's gone on to do lots of other things which

i think it makes it particularly particularly interesting now to to get lewis on to talk about

um mental strength and and performance associated with um being able to control your thoughts and

everything else like that because everything that

has happened to Lewis in and you know in his in his professional career has I think you know

leads perfectly on to it for him to be in the kind of position to to to be able to deliver this

information to to athletes to um to amateur athletes to to even some of

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