You're listening to the partially examined life, a podcast by some guys who at one point

set on doing philosophy for a living but then thought better of it.

Our question for episode 351 is something like what philosophical issues are involved in

transgender. We're speaking to Sophie Grace Chappell from the open university about her new book, Transfigured.

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This is Mark Lintonmeyer, often feeling, I do need some kind of theory to justify my own existence.

This is Seth Paskin in Austin, Texas.

This is Dylan Casey in Madison, Wisconsin.

Welcome Sophie, please introduce yourself however you would prefer.

Hello, I'm the professor of philosophy at the Open University.

I write on ethics, ancient philosophy, epistemology, things like that.

I also publish poems and I translate the Greek poets sometimes

and when I'm not doing any of that I climb mountains or play the piano or play tennis or just hang out with books.

So we had heard about you, we posted on our Facebook group last summer, what is the trans philosopher we should talk to?

What are the central books? Because it's such a

you know a novel field as far as philosophy goes. It's not like there's a Judith Butler

who we had on the show, but you know her gender trouble is sort of like okay people read that but there

doesn't seem to be the equivalent is that right so far is there a building

trans literature such that if you took a course that was covering equity of various sorts that there would be like oh this is the philosophy book you would read or are you trying to write that right now is that?

I hope I've written one of the things that people might refer to in writing transfigured.

There are a lot of books out there.

A lot of them quite recent, as you say.

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