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Ep 349 | D&C 137-138, Come Follow Me 2025 (December 1-7)

Talking Scripture

Mike Day & Bryce Dunford

Religion & Spirituality

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πŸ—“οΈ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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(00:00) The doctrine of salvation for the dead is revealed in Section 137.
(01:43) Divine curiosity is a catalyst for revelation.
(07:25) Joseph marvels at how Alvin obtained Celestial glory without being baptized. He learns that all who have died without a knowledge of the gospel, who would have received it, shall be heirs of the Celestial Kingdom.
(12:30) All children that die before the years of accountability are saved in the Celestial Kingdom.
(19:23) After losing dear family members, Joseph F. Smith receives revelation about the Spirit World.
(25:11) Joseph F. Smith has a vision of Jesus coming into the Spirit World after His crucifixion.
(28:33) Those in the Spirit World see the absence of their bodies as bondage. The body and spirit are very much connected.
(32:44) Coats of light and coats of skins in Genesis 3.21.
(34:16) The great feast in a temple setting as contained in D&C 138 and Isaiah 26. The Saints are invited to rise from the dust and enter into kingship.
(44:29) The Savior organizes the righteous to preach to the spirits in prison, but then he resurrects the righteous. Perhaps the work of saving the dead is for our dispensation.
(51:17) As children of God we are all connected and will continue preaching the gospel in the Spirit World after death.

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, welcome to Talking Scripture, a podcast where we illustrate relevance and application of the scriptures in Come Follow Me.

0:10.1

We also dive into the history and cultures of the text.

0:13.4

Thanks for taking the time to share and subscribe to this podcast.

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For show notes, head over to our website, talking scripture.org.

0:23.3

Welcome to Talking Scripture. I'm Mike. And I'm Bryce. And today we are going to be in Section 137 and 138 of the Doctrine Covenants.

0:31.7

Now, 137 actually fits back in the Curtland era. Yeah. Section 137 was given in January of 1836. And if you remember

0:41.2

when we talked about Section 110 and Section 109, when Joseph is giving the initiatory ordinances

0:48.9

to select members of the church, he is also having a visionary experience. In the journal or in the records of

0:57.0

Oliver Cowdery and John Coral, they talk about how their bodies were washed with pure water and

1:02.7

anointed with holy oil in preparation for having visions. In fact, Oliver Cowdery says, the glorious

1:09.0

scene is too great to be described.

1:11.5

Therefore, I only say that the heavens were opened to many and great and marvelous things were shown.

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So in the context of this section, we're back in the Kirtland era.

1:21.1

It's before the temple's dedicated and individuals are having visions and they're having marvelous experiences.

1:27.4

And Bryce, this section is an interesting section because it's a vision that Joseph is having.

1:32.4

And yet in the visionary experience, there are people in the room that are alive that he's seeing in the context of redemption for the dead theology.

1:43.2

This is absolutely brilliant teaching. We get to see

1:46.0

God as a teacher in this section. So let me take you back to the early days of church history,

1:52.4

the loss of Alvin Smith. Do you remember how much that affected Joseph? Alvin was probably the most

2:00.1

interested in all that was going on in Joseph's life. Alvin was probably the most interested in all that was going on in Joseph's life.

2:04.2

Alvin was there behind Joseph. And you might ask, Heavenly Father, why would you take such an

2:10.0

ardent supporter at a time when Joseph needed them so much? His law struck Joseph very deep into

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