Zach and Laura reflect on significant milestones and life lessons. Laura shares her journey of completing the New York Marathon, weaving in lessons about endurance, self-discovery, and how the physical demands of a marathon parallel the emotional effort required in relationships. Zach celebrates four years of sobriety, reflecting on how his journey has reshaped his relationships, health, and mindset. The episode dives into themes of personal growth, resilience, and navigating difficult phases in life. Zach recites a favorite poem about marathons, illustrating how breaking down challenges into smaller, manageable parts can lead to long-term success. Laura reflects on her recent decision to quit alcohol, sharing the impact it has had on her physical and mental health, as well as her desire to model positive habits for her family. Together, they explore how embracing hard things—like running a marathon or choosing sobriety—can create space for joy, clarity, and meaningful connections. The conversation also touches on the value of support systems, including friendships and therapy, and how intentional choices can lead to lasting positive change. Episode Highlights: Laura’s Marathon Journey: Laura shares her experience running the New York Marathon, focusing on how the lessons learned about pacing and persistence mirror challenges in relationships. Zach’s Sobriety Milestone: Zach celebrates four years of sobriety, reflecting on how it has improved his relationships and health, and the lessons it has taught him about gratitude and self-awareness. Overcoming the Firsts in Sobriety: They discuss navigating the “firsts” of sobriety—holidays, social events, and other triggers—and how these milestones contribute to long-term success. Parallels Between Marathons and Relationships: Zach recites a poem about running a marathon, drawing parallels between breaking down physical challenges and overcoming relational hurdles. Phases of Life and Relationships: Laura emphasizes the importance of recognizing that difficult phases—whether in parenting, relationships, or personal growth—are temporary and can be navigated with intention. Sponsor: Get 10% off your first month at BETTER HELP by visiting https://betterhelp.com/marriagetherapy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices