Ep 347 | D&C 133-134, Come Follow Me 2025 (November 17-23)

Talking Scripture

Mike Day & Bryce Dunford

Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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→ Timestamps: (00:00) Section 133 was intended to be an appendix to the Doctrine and Covenants.(00:55) The role of government is to maintain a balance between rights and responsibilities.(06:59) Section 133 is a companion to Section 1. Prophecies in the Bible will be fulfilled as the Latter-day Saints gather the House of Israel.(17:35) Temple imagery in D&C 133 and its connection to Isaiah 52 and Moroni 10.(26:38) Rising from the dust as a symbol of enthronement and heavenly kingship.(28:09) Moroni’s appendix parallels many of the ideas in D&C 133 and Isaiah 52.(31:17) Come out of “digital” Babylon and build Zion.(32:44) Literal and symbolic interpretations of the divided land becoming one again.(36:06) The members of the Godhead are separate beings, but perfectly united in purpose.(41:13) The Millennial possibility of a pure, unified language and people.(42:20) Symbols of cosmic conflict in section 133: Mount Zion, the Great Deep, and North Countries. Rival religions at the time of Israel had images that were also associated with these ideas.(51:40) Loving kindness or ḥesed means a very deep feeling of love.(54:16) The parable of the ten virgins. They that are wise have taken the Holy Spirit for their guide.(56:07) John prophesied that an angel would fly through the midst of heaven with the everlasting gospel.(58:06) The 144,000 have priesthood authority and represent all the tribes of Israel.(1:00:08) The symbolism and significance of the Savior’s red garments.(1:07:39) Elder Holland’s statement regarding previous dispensations and how their hope rested on us.

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, welcome to Talking Scripture, a podcast where we illustrate relevance and application of the scriptures in Come Follow Me.
0:10.1	We also dive into the history and cultures of the text.
0:13.4	Thanks for taking the time to share and subscribe to this podcast.
0:16.9	For show notes, head over to our website, talkingscripture.org.
0:23.3	Welcome to Talking Scripture. I'm Mike.
0:25.1	And I'm Bryce.
0:25.9	And today we are going to be in Section 133 and 134 of the Doctrine Convenants.
0:31.6	Bryce and I are going to talk about Section 134 first.
0:34.9	And the reason for that is because Section 133 was intended from the beginning to be an appendix.
0:41.3	It was intended to come at the end. So Section 134 really by intention should come first, and then at the end of the Doctrine Covenants, we get 133, which was intended to be the appendix.
0:55.0	So first let's jump into 134, which is a commentary on principles that govern government.
1:02.4	It was recorded on August 17, 1835 at a conference that the church was holding in
1:08.6	Courtsland, Ohio, and actually Joseph Smith and his
1:12.1	counselor Frederick G. Williams were away on a mission. And so while they're away in Michigan on a
1:17.8	mission, these articles are approved. Joseph didn't even learn about the inclusion of these articles
1:23.2	until he got back from his mission, and he didn't approve of either action, either one of these,
1:29.0	but he chose to respect the vote of the conference.
1:31.3	And so there were two articles included.
1:33.5	One was on marriage, and then one was this section.
1:36.8	Later, the article on marriage was dropped from the Doctrine Convenants in the 1876 edition
1:41.5	of the Doctrine Covenants.
1:42.9	And Section 132, which contains the Lord's Law of Marriage,
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