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I think that there's been times in my life where I've asked for too much permission and

look for too much validation and at a certain point you have to stop looking for other people

to sign off on your ideas and just realize that you might be one of the only people that

see what you see and just go.

Growing wealth while supporting your family isn't easy but with a well-crafted plan you

can take on anything. Visit planefe.com slash her money to schedule a free appointment with

an advisor today because juggling finances can be overwhelming but it's possible to find a

better balance. Hey everyone I'm Gene Chatsky thanks so much for joining us today on her money.

So many of us define ourselves by our jobs. When you're meeting someone new whether that's

making a friend or joining a club or going on a date one of the first questions you're going to

hear especially in America is what do you do and yes it's totally normal but here's the thing.

We are all so much more than just our jobs and it is important to remember that especially if you

are changing careers starting a side hustle retiring we all have to create an identity for ourselves

that is bigger than a job title and there is nobody who does that better than my guest today

Brandon Copeland. He is a 10 year NFL veteran but so much more than that title. He is an

entrepreneur and investor, a real estate developer, a philanthropist and a college professor

after graduating from the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business Go Quakers.

Brandon came back a few years later to teach a personal finance class called Life 101 which is

now available as an online course for anyone to take. He is also a member of CNBC's Financial

Wellness Council, a contributing editor for Kiplingers. Wow. Brandon I'm really excited to have

you here today. I can't wait to talk about all of this but let me just start with with all of your

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