What's up everybody? This is the Betray, the addicted, and the expert. My name is Brannon and I am the expert.

And I'm Ashland and I was the Bet. And I'm Kobe, the recovering addict.

What you're going to get is three unique perspectives on recovery and tools for hope and healing.

Okay guys, we're talking about not labeling yourself,

which is kind of ironic considering the name of our podcast

The trade the addiction reaction that was more a marketing decision than it was if you recognize If you recognize in the intro I do say I It was the

the betray. And I also say that. You're always the betrayed. And I also say that.

You're always the expert though, right?

Oh, I guess so. I'm labeled as the expert. But even the word the addicted is different than the addict, right?

Yeah. And when you say I was betrayed, that's different than I am the betrayed. Right. Right. So let's talk about

what the problem with labeling is and how it causes problems. So you you know, if, if, Kobe, if we label you as as the addict, you're an

addict, that's what you are, what's wrong with doing that?

Well, I... What's wrong doing that?

Well, I think just in principle, it's like I'm going to be

an addict.

Whoever I'm told I am.

Okay?

And if I'm, for instance, if I'm a young kid and I'm told just

successfully that I can't focus, I'm not a good student, then I'll probably find

ways to be that. But isn't it, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here

for just a minute.

Isn't it true?

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