Hello and welcome to the MS-Mama Podcast. I'm your host Abby Halberstadt, happy wife,

Mama to 10 Bible Believing Christian, and on today's show I want to address a particular topic

that piggybacks off of my new book, Hard Is Not the Same Thing is Bad, and it's actually

the name of a chapter within the book. And the idea is I often get asked

okay so if you think that all hard things are good, which I do not. So let's just kind of set that aside.

But if you're kind of lobbying for this idea

that we need to reframe our view of hard,

that we need to view hard things not in the light of how do I get away from this as fast as possible or how do I avoid it altogether so you know I'm hearing from lots of people that are saying I understand that kids are a blessing but I just really don't want any

because I can objectively see that they would get in the way of my current

lifestyle and I really enjoy my life and I really like where I am right now.

And so I think I'm just going to avoid kids altogether and I think that's a

podcast for another day from a biblical perspective whether it is biblical, whether it is biblical,

whether it is of the Lord to avoid kids altogether

for the purpose of avoiding something

that would kind of cramp your lifestyle

or change how you live or complicate things or insert whatever phrase that I've heard and someone's going to say nobody thinks that way I mean yes yes they do I have been contacted by many people who either

are addressing this conundrum with their spouse or they're struggling with this

internally themselves or they're a single woman that's afraid to get married

because the prospect of kids makes them worry that they will lose themselves and they will

lose all of the fun and the joy and the spontaneity in their lives. I see it in comment sections. So that's kind of another

podcast for another day, but that would be a good example of the attitude that I think we

see too much of in our society which says if it's going to

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