Hello, everybody. My name is Eric Trexler. I am here with a good Dr. Eric Helms, and you are watching Iron Culture, presented by Mass, live on this lovely Monday evening. Dr. Helms, how are we doing?

I am wearing blue and black in solidarity with you, which is in solidarity with me for 3D muscle

journey, whether you intended that or not.

They saw you came on this way, and I was like, let me throw all my black sweatshirt and my,

grab my blue hat that I got for winning my pro card.

This is the big things you can get natural body building, folks.

Yeah. You can get a fitness you can get natural body building, folks. Yeah.

You can get a fitness brand hats.

So,

that's right.

The big achievement

you've had your eye on

for decades and they'll,

you know what you deserve for this?

A $17 hat.

I mean, it was AUD, so 20.

Oh, okay.

You know?

There you go.

Yeah.

Now, it's back in the day when I actually would like claim to be a pro natural bodybuilder in certain contexts, if I ever mentioned that around people who didn't get it, I'd be like, well, wait a minute.

You don't know what that means.

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